Anti roll bar

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Blastapest2 said:
Well that seemed to bring out the sharp edged tools! All I was asking was, was there an option to improve the anti roll ability as Clarkson appeared to be driving two fairly similar vehicles. one of which handled better than the other !! I'm certainly NOT a boy racer 71 at last count! Great vehicle, just wondered if it could be improved!!
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I think the L322 does ok as standard and is quite a complex set up so i would think the cheapest option would be to trick it into setting the suspension lower if you wanted to.
You may be able to do this if yours lowers the suspension at motorway speeds and then pressing the button in the centre of the height adjustment which locks the suspension to that setting and then have a play. My 2004 feels too hard in the corners sometimes but i have replaced all the front and rear suspension bushes and joints so if your is a bit lively in the corners it may be worth getting it checked out as they do suffer from excessive play both front and rear. i also have dunlop front struts which are terrible in my opinion.
Also the L322 and the Sport are completely different as are the earlier BMW L322s compared to the later JLR version.

It can seem a little prickly around here at times, it is nothing personal, stick around and we will teach you how to do it. :)
 
Blastapest2 said:
Well that seemed to bring out the sharp edged tools! All I was asking was, was there an option to improve the anti roll ability as Clarkson appeared to be driving two fairly similar vehicles. one of which handled better than the other !! I'm certainly NOT a boy racer 71 at last count! Great vehicle, just wondered if it could be improved!!
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Perhaps that is where you have been misled. The similarity ends at the name Range Rover. If you want a fair comparison , he should have compared the Discovery 3 and the Range Rover Sport.
It is not , for example, like comparing a BMW 3 series and a BMW 3Series M3. Which is the same beast, different set up.
Also, as I stated before, the constant referencing of the L322 as a 'standard' vehicle , reads that you think the Sport is the same vehicle with added bits. It's not.
Now all that has been cleared up, I say again, if you are having issues when going round bends, the techie types, on here, can point you to areas to check, as there is possibly/probably an issue.
 
gold rover said:
Perhaps that is where you have been misled. The similarity ends at the name Range Rover. If you want a fair comparison , he should have compared the Discovery 3 and the Range Rover Sport.
It is not , for example, like comparing a BMW 3 series and a BMW 3Series M3. Which is the same beast, different set up.
Also, as I stated before, the constant referencing of the L322 as a 'standard' vehicle , reads that you think the Sport is the same vehicle with added bits. It's not.
Now all that has been cleared up, I say again, if you are having issues when going round bends, the techie types, on here, can point you to areas to check, as there is possibly/probably an issue.
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P.s when I found mine wallowing on corners, it turned out to be the bushes
 
holidaychicken said:
I find mine a little stiff in the corners, I think i long for the more wallowing ride of the classic, my leather seats are also too hard.
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A PO retrofitted genuine LR Anti-roll bars to my Classic, it corners well & allegedly the trade off is only half-an-inch of lost axle articulation.
nb: I don't suffer from hard seats either ;)
 
norseman said:
A PO retrofitted genuine LR Anti-roll bars to my Classic, it corners well & allegedly the trade off is only half-an-inch of lost axle articulation.
nb: I don't suffer from hard seats either ;)
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Andy only finds the seats hard, cos his bum is sore ;) I don't find the seats hard. Firm but not hard, and with a bad back, I like the firm seats.
 
Datatek said:
Each to their own, I find the L322 seats typically German park bench hard, the P38 seats are much better IMO.
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Maybe , all my years of 'any seat is a bonus' and only in recent years not viewing the ground as both seat and bed, has skewed my idea of what 'hard' is and as such I find any seat , with a cushion, comfortable*. :) I suspect it'll take me a while to adjust. I still sit on the ground, when there's no seats to be found, it just takes me longer to get up from it now :D
Also I'm not comparing the L322 seats, to other car seats. If I was it's probably middling. With the seats of my E200 Mercedes harder than my old favourite, the ground, and the seats of the Volvo C70 softer than a feather pillow , and the most uncomfortable ( that I can recall)

* Actually, not any. 1920s style dining chairs, even with cushion, are not comfortable :eek:
 
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wammers said:
Or he can start cornering at a more reasonable speed. I find that works every time. And it costs nothing, no modifications required.
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I had to re-learn how to take corners after buying a Volvo 145 30 years ago. Setting yourself up before the corner is in my mind one of the most important ways to drive smoothly and safely, and really will make a difference to the amount of body roll to our taller and heavier motors.
 
I'll try again to make my point! I have a 2012 L322 which I choose to call "standard" a friend of mine also has a 2012 model which I believe is an L322 as it is the same overall shape as mine, his is called "sport" according to the nameplate attached to the rear door. He is able to lower and lock his ride height and I believe alter the stillness of his suspension (which I don't seem able to do) I am aware there are many differences between my vehicle and the numerous "Range Rover Sport" versions out there but what, if any, is the difference between mine and my friends as the body shell seems the same with the only difference I can see is that my exhaust vents downwards and is hidden behind the bumper and his has two pipes which exit through the bumper pointing rearwards!
I am not trying to make a Bowler or something similar but just to improve on what I think I have already!
 
If your mate has a sport badge on his otherwise L322 then he is buffoon of the highest order.....

or he bought it like that, but still a fool.

No L322 had the Sport nomenclature.

If a Sort and an L322 look somewhat similar enough for you to conclude they are the same then go to the back of class, and hand over your sweets.
 
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Blastapest2 said:
I'll try again to make my point! I have a 2012 L322 which I choose to call "standard" a friend of mine also has a 2012 model which I believe is an L322 as it is the same overall shape as mine, his is called "sport" according to the nameplate attached to the rear door. He is able to lower and lock his ride height and I believe alter the stillness of his suspension (which I don't seem able to do) I am aware there are many differences between my vehicle and the numerous "Range Rover Sport" versions out there but what, if any, is the difference between mine and my friends as the body shell seems the same with the only difference I can see is that my exhaust vents downwards and is hidden behind the bumper and his has two pipes which exit through the bumper pointing rearwards!
I am not trying to make a Bowler or something similar but just to improve on what I think I have already!
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I think he has the Overfinch model which may well have some enhancements to the suspension system.

Here is a terrible video made by somebody who likes to combine his hobby as a cameraman and an amateur uni-cyclist so just cut forward to 9 minutes to see the rear. It still shouldn't have a sport badge though

 
I would have expected an Overfinch to have their logo on it, I'll try and get a pic to settle this. As I see it a sport looks as though someone has stood on the back half and used it as a skate !!
 
It's not hard.
There is the L322, known as a Range Rover, it is not a Range Rover Sport , no matter what trim is put on it , no matter what Overfinch or Kahn, or similar, do to it and no matter what badge is stuck on it. I can stick supercharged on my diesel, it will not make it a supercharged. (Sadly :( )
There is the L320, known as the Range Rover Sport, it is not an L322, no matter what trim and even removing the Sport badge will not make it an L322.
There are loads of images on the internet but in the interests of clarity ;
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Some of the sport and L322s from the front look similar , the rear on the sport looks a bit boom badda boom lard ass and no matter what exhaust trims they put on the sport they all look like ****e
 
holidaychicken said:
Some of the sport and L322s from the front look similar , the rear on the sport looks a bit boom badda boom lard ass and no matter what exhaust trims they put on the sport they all look like ****e
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From the front, travelling at 60 towards you, whilst you're doing 60 the other way :D ;)
However, no excuse if you actually own an L322 and are comparing it to a n other vehicle, which you have looked at, closely enough , to see exhaust differences.
It's either an L322, some plonker has stuck a Sport badge on. Not realising the Sport is actually the cheaper little sister. You know the one...... she wears her thong sticking out of her jeans and got a tramp stamp before she was 18. Rather than the older , more refined big sister, who keeps her thrills, and frills,private and has a tattoo but it is, discreetly , where only she and her lover will see.
Or it is correctly badged as the aforementioned Sport, the cheaper little sister. ;)
 
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